{"id":14,"date":"2003-11-15T22:11:58","date_gmt":"2003-11-15T21:11:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.jimpunk.com\/.net\/?p=14"},"modified":"2003-11-15T22:11:58","modified_gmt":"2003-11-15T21:11:58","slug":"amy-alexander-writes-about-jimpunk-and-josh-larios","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jimpunk.com\/.net\/archives\/14","title":{"rendered":"Amy Alexander writes about Jimpunk and Josh Larios"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The word &#8220;network,&#8221; at least in a social sense, seems to have a connotation of closedness. Think of the term &#8220;networking&#8221; &#8211; it refers to making connections with people within a fairly tightly defined circuit. A network can be a &#8220;community&#8221; &#8211; and that&#8217;s a Good Thing. But it can also become a clique, sometimes missing ties to other networks with interesting commonalities.<br \/>\nI have a somewhat mixed\/mixed-up professional background, possibly due to my short attention span. Maybe that&#8217;s why blurry taxonomies always made more sense to me than crisp ones. Art and programming always seemed to me to make sense together &#8211; both somehow teeter on the edge of verbal and non-verbal subjective expression. But the combination of the two has<br \/>\nproved in some cases to result in something much different than the sum of its parts &#8211; leading us to something that&#8217;s come to be called &#8220;software art.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>A nice thing about software art is that it&#8217;s experiencing an identity crisis &#8211; sometimes it goes by the name &#8220;software art,&#8221; at other times it&#8217;s called &#8220;artistic software.&#8221; Which word to put first? It can also sometimes be found under even more puzzling labels like &#8220;interesting software,&#8221; &#8220;strange software&#8221; or &#8220;Hey, check this out!&#8221; The point is that it&#8217;s both art (if you like that term) and software (fewer complaints about that one, somehow) &#8211; and that it&#8217;s made by self-described artists, self-described programmers, self described none-of-the-aboves, and self-described all-of-the-aboves.<\/p>\n<p>So, to get to the point: when Eduardo asked me to invite two people to this project from my &#8220;network,&#8221; I decided to invite two people I didn&#8217;t know, but whose work I find interesting &#8211; so as to try to extend out the network a bit. I invited Jimpunk and Josh Larios, who both create software projects in which algorithms exude strong &#8220;personalities,&#8221; at the same time revealing something about contemporary culture.<\/p>\n<p>Jimpunk works in the explicitly &#8220;art&#8221; side of software art. His projects, including &#8220;Gogolchat&#8221; (with Christophe Bruno) and &#8220;d2b vs. Jimpunk&#8221; use text, images and sound from the Internet as their data material. But software is algorithms as well as data, and it&#8217;s Jimpunk&#8217;s algorithms that distinguish and personalize his work. Through deliberate algorithmic sequencing, juxtaposition, and timing, net data a la Jimpunk becomes choreographed net-cinema narrative, rather than what could otherwise turn out to be a nihilistic, random, data-overload mush.<\/p>\n<p>Josh Larios comes from the &#8220;software&#8221; side of things &#8211; my favorite works of Josh&#8217;s are his algorithmic text generators: Turing tests with a twist. Traditional artificial intelligence algorithms try to convince the audience that computers &#8220;think&#8221; coherently &#8211; which presupposes that humans think coherently as well. But projects like Josh&#8217;s &#8220;The Adolescent Poetry Generator&#8221; are more modest regarding their assumptions about both computers and humans &#8211; they admit that computers don&#8217;t make much sense &#8211;<br \/>\nand often, neither do humans. In the case of The Adolescent Poetry Generator, random bits of angst-filled text flow into one another not-quite-seamlessly. The fun is not in the algorithm&#8217;s transparency, but in its opaqueness &#8211; instead of an AI bot amazing us with how much it acts like a &#8220;smart&#8221; human, we&#8217;re reminded that humans can often amaze us with their disturbing similarity to AI bots.<\/p>\n<p>So, while Josh and Jimpunk work with different content and have different approaches to software, both work with the subjectivity of algorithms in a cultural context. Hopefully their combined presence in the P2P network will somehow spawn even more strange and exotic things&#8230; perhaps an adolescent net image generator &#8211; oops, no, better strike that &#8211; we don&#8217;t want any algorithms winding up behind bars&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Amy Alexander<br \/>\nNovember 2003<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.postartum.org\/p2p\/JPunkJLarios.html\" target=\"_blank\">postartum.org\/p2p\/JPunkJLarios.html<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The word &#8220;network,&#8221; at least in a social sense, seems to have a connotation of closedness. Think of the term &#8220;networking&#8221; &#8211; it refers to making connections with people within a fairly tightly defined circuit. A network can be a &#8220;community&#8221; &#8211; and that&#8217;s a Good Thing. 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